On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 4:55 PM, Henning Larsen <hennlar@xxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Sat, 2008-02-23 at 08:35 +1030, Tim wrote: > > On Fri, 2008-02-22 at 15:01 -0600, Arthur Pemberton wrote: > > > I do wish I had the choice to have a gnome free (as in `rpm -qa | grep > > > gnome` returns no results). > > > > I wish the opposite, KDE free... But leaving that war aside for the > > moment, it is annoying anytime that you come across an application that > > depends on you having a particular GUI system. Even more so when you > > don't have it installed. It'd be far less annoying if it could just > > draw windows, use sound, etc., etc., from whatever system you're using. > > > > In the past I'd had a bit of a play with some of the more lightweight > > window managers, only to discover how pointless that was the moment you > > fired up some application that made use of Gnome or KDE. You had a big > > wait while all that baggage was loaded. And it makes your system > > sluggish, negating the benefit of using a lighter weight system. Not to > > mention if you fired up an application that decided it needed to take > > over your desktop. > > > Is there any initiative from anyone to get rid of these problems. I > don't want gnome, I don't want KDE, but I want krename and nautilus. > > Could those and other programs get freed from KDE/Gnome? > > I thought Linux is about openness not lockin like it is now. > > Henning Larsen I think that is an unrealistic goal, to be frank. You want apps tied to each DE but not the DEs themselves. I want just one DE and I can barely get that. -- Fedora 7 : sipping some of that moonshine ( www.pembo13.com )