On Fri, Feb 08, 2008 at 03:21:44PM -0500, Robert P. J. Day wrote: > i've never had this much trouble before. weird. i'll go at it > again on the weekend. thanks. FWIW, I never use system-config-network. Why are you not using NetworkManager? It has a lot more curb appeal to impress your Windows friends... :-) Anyway, s-c-n still doesn't seem to handle mac80211 drivers quite right. I think there is a problem with how it tries to determine if the link is "up" (which in this case should be when there is an association). FWIW, I can't get s-c-n to work at all on my simple WEP network, but NM and manual configuration work first time, everytime...YMMV. I would suggest not using s-c-n at all. If NM doesn't work, then you should just using the ifconfig/iwconfig/dhclient sequence described earlier in this thread. Hth! John -- John W. Linville linville@xxxxxxxxxx