i'm embarrassed to admit that i can't, for the life of me, get a wireless connection at a friend's house at the moment. updated fedora 8, and a stock linksys WRT54GL. i have the SSID, i have the WEP key, i even have the router password, so i've logged in and checked everything -- no MAC filtering, no DHCP client limit, etc. but when i try to bring up wireless, /var/log/messages shows me: Feb 8 08:37:59 localhost dhclient: wmaster0: unknown hardware address type 801 Feb 8 08:37:59 localhost dhclient: wmaster0: unknown hardware address type 801 Feb 8 08:37:59 localhost dhclient: DHCPDISCOVER on wlan0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 8 Feb 8 08:38:07 localhost dhclient: DHCPDISCOVER on wlan0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 11 ... Feb 8 08:39:00 localhost dhclient: No DHCPOFFERS received. i can certainly see the WAP: # iwlist wlan0 scan ... Cell 02 - Address: 00:18:39:6A:01:EF ESSID:"XXXXXXXX" Mode:Master Channel:6 Frequency:2.437 GHz (Channel 6) Quality=83/100 Signal level=-46 dBm Noise level=-67 dBm Encryption key:on Bit Rates:1 Mb/s; 2 Mb/s; 5.5 Mb/s; 11 Mb/s; 18 Mb/s 24 Mb/s; 36 Mb/s; 54 Mb/s; 6 Mb/s; 9 Mb/s 12 Mb/s; 48 Mb/s ... i'm pretty much out of ideas here -- any thoughts? rday -- ======================================================================== Robert P. J. Day Linux Consulting, Training and Annoying Kernel Pedantry Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA Home page: http://crashcourse.ca Fedora Cookbook: http://crashcourse.ca/wiki/index.php/Fedora_Cookbook ========================================================================