Danny Yee wrote: > I must have wasted three or four hours reading various web pages about > Fedora 8 sound problems and trying various fixes -- I keep finding > "solutions" that work for some applications but not others, or work > for a while and then stop working for no obvious reason. > > * I can't use totem or rhythmbox as they crash, killing firefox and > starting gnome-screensaver (and eventually killing by X session) > [I'm not using gnome or kde] What DE are you using? In particular, which LOGINMANAGER? (gdm, kdm, other?). the login manager is what grants your session rights to session, devices (audio!), etc... -- Rex