-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 John Summerfield wrote: | David Boles wrote: |> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- |> Hash: SHA1 |> |> John Summerfield wrote: |> | David Boles wrote: |> |> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- |> |> Hash: SHA1 |> |> |> |> John Summerfield wrote: |> |> | Timothy Murphy wrote: |> |> |> Ed Landaveri wrote: |> |> |> |> |> |>> If your computer has no DVD drive and you need to do |> |> |>> an installation, do a FTP or NFS install. It'll be |> |> |>> faster & cleaner. |> |> |> |> |> |> An alternative is to use the KDE Live CD, |> |> |> install that, and use "yum groupinstall" |> |> |> to install anything more one wants. |> |> |> |> |> | |> |> | |> |> | Neither helps me give a copy to my mate. |> |> | Neither helps install sans network; I've just tried Ubuntu jeos and, |> |> | despite being on a CD, it wants to download more stuff from the |> |> | Internet. Yuck and <plonk>. |> |> | |> |> | The CD-sized images in a DVD solves problems that other techniques |> |> do not. |> |> | |> |> | Really, the question is, "Why not?" |> |> |> |> I am not with Fedora and can not answer your "Why not?". But I would |> |> guess |> |> it is drive space, plus mirror complaints, and no time. ;-) |> | |> | If you'd read the whole thread, you'd know disk space isn't an issue. |> | There are no separate CD images. |> |> |> Gee I was referring to the mirrors that are doing this for free. Not your | | As am I. | |> drive space. Ta' know downloading, storing, keeping duplicate packages, |> stuff like that. All for free I said again. | | Maybe you should read the thread. | | |> |> |> |> |> |> The only place that I know of for Fedora CD's is here. |> |> |> |> Fedora Unity |> |> http://spins.fedoraunity.org/ |> |> |> |> This site uses jigdo and (I have not done this but I would bet it |> would |> |> work) jigdo would read *your* DVD, download the updated packages, and |> |> make |> |> the CD's from the updates and the unchanged packages from your DVD. |> These |> |> CDs, should this work, would be up-to-date as of Dec 18, 2007. |> |> |> |> I have done a DVD to DVD update and jigdo works quite well. |> | |> | I've been using (and recommending) Jigdo for years. I don't recall |> | seeing official Fedora jigdoes around. |> |> |> There are no official Fedora CD sets for Fedora 8, that I know of, |> available. I would trust the ones from the site I recommended. Did you |> actually read the pages? | | I know about jigdo, I've been using it and recommending it for years. If | there are no official CD images, it's not going to help reconstruct them. |> |> The jigdo uses *your* already official downloaded Fedora DVD packages and |> downloads *official* updated packages from *official* Fedora mirrors to |> replace the old ones. And then makes new iso(s). These are not *trust me* |> isos by some third party. | | My proposal would have official CD sets and official DVD sets in (about) | the same disk space as required for just DVD sets. Same at Fedora'a | sites, same as at the mirrors. | | _I_ don't care so much about _MY_ disk space, I'll just go get another, | bigger, drive. or delete something. | | My proposal would have no fiddling with jigdo. Fiddling with jigdo just | adds to the complications. Gee. Sorry. I was just trying to help you and your friend. And I did offer a reasonable solution. A way to make a CD set from an existing, already downloaded, official, Fedora 8 DVD and official Fedora 8 updated packages downloaded from official Fedora mirrors into a CD set of Fedora. Even if you did *not* have a local DVD source this would make the CD isos without that. And Jigdo, bluntly, is so simple to use that anyone that *thinks* that they can use Linux should be able to do it. But what you want is a DVD with CD isos for everyone instead of an installable DVD iso that I, and many, many others, could use with out the magic, smoke, and mirrors. No thanks. And I think that it makes more sense the way it is now than with the hair brained CD isos in a DVD iso solution that you propose. BTW - While I was preparing dinner I started this 'process' and I am currently working on the fifth, there are five total in the set, CD iso. If you had not been such a hard a$$ you could had CDs to hand to your friend by tomorrow at the latest. Have a good day. - -- ~ David -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.8 (MingW32) iEYEARECAAYFAkeWpdkACgkQAO0wNI1X4QHr7gCg2ABxWjCrjTFUQckHC7pf/aXE aCgAoICWKInDeNatlfKMyB9W8dtNaDNH =AWCV -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----