On Sat, 2008-01-19 at 23:01 +0100, Mark wrote: > > > Well i'm the only user on this machine and i simply don't want to get > > > prompted for a keyring password and i find it close to useless to have > > > a password for it anyway. > > > > > > I simply don't want to get prompted about any password prompts other > > > than the login one and the root password. all other password prompts > > > (as far as i can think of) are pointless. > > > > > > In my case the keyring-manager is only being used for NetworkManager > > > to make a wireless network connection. > > > > I understand not wanting to be prompted. The fact that this hasn't been > > fixed (and is a regression from pam_keyring in F7) is a minor annoyance, > > but I agree it's an annoyance. > > > > But that's different from not wanting a password at all. Most GNOME > > apps that manage passwords (e.g., Evolution) seem to be moving to using > > the keyring. When more valuable keys are saved there, it doesn't seem > > unreasonable to protect them even on a machine that you think is fairly > > secure. > > I agree that the usage of a "keyring" can be handy at times but the > password manager (gnome keyring) should have the option to just work > without a password prompt at all! > > Lets take windows as a example in this case. when i make a wireless > connection the first time i have to fill in a password for that > connection (assuming it's password protected) but when i > reboot/disconnect/whatever so that it needs to connect again it's not > asking for the password at all and just connects. That behavior is > what i would like gnome-keyring to have as well. As I said earlier in the thread (since snipped): $ rpm -qi gnome-keyring-pam Name : gnome-keyring-pam Relocations: (not relocatable) Version : 2.20.2 Vendor: Fedora Project Release : 1.fc8 Build Date: Mon 26 Nov 2007 09:59:24 PM EST Install Date: Fri 07 Dec 2007 02:58:38 PM EST Build Host: hammer2.fedora.redhat.com Group : Development/Libraries Source RPM: gnome-keyring-2.20.2-1.fc8.src.rpm Size : 28760 License: LGPLv2+ Signature : DSA/SHA1, Tue 04 Dec 2007 04:53:11 PM EST, Key ID b44269d04f2a6fd2 Packager : Fedora Project URL : http://www.gnome.org Summary : A pam module for unlocking keyrings at login time Description : The gnome-keyring-pam package contains a pam module that can automatically unlock the "login" keyring when the user logs in and start the keyring daemon. But it's not working yet. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=356931 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=250147 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=312531 You could also try pam_keyring. That worked in F7, but is supposed to have been superseded by gnome-keyring-pam in F8. -- Matthew Saltzman Clemson University Math Sciences mjs AT clemson DOT edu http://www.math.clemson.edu/~mjs