On Thu, 2008-01-17 at 10:05 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > FWIW, I love my Dad...but he is getting on in years. Sometimes he comes to > me with problems he has on his PC (he is a Windows only person). When I try > to tell him what is wrong or explain the situation the first words out of > his mouth are "I know...". At which point I stop in my tracks. There is no > point in trying to convince him that he doesn't know...and I end up being > the only frustrated person since he is sure he is right. So, I've learned > ...with my Dad anyway...not to waste my breath. That has to be the toughest lesson in the world. I had a passel of problems with relationship with my Father. A great man in my eyes. He held first-line signature status on patents for the first working nuclear core designs that didn't go critical, using the "honey-comb" approach for Atomic Industries in DC, back when in the early 50's. Seeing him decline was a pure bitch for me. His anger management issues were another bitch for me as a child. But, I'd be the first to want to bust someone in the mouth if they personally denigrated him. So, decorum is good. For everyone. It's hard to hurt someone without first "labeling" them... the process is called "objectification". Practically every guy and women in "da joint" first labeled their victim, so as to offend them after. "Objectification" is the first step. "Victimization" is the second step. I'd hate like hell for anyone on this list to participate in our prison work shops because they have to, via a court order. It just takes one brain fart (cognitive distortion) to get there. Just one. So, I'd plea for someone not to take the first step, with the second looming largely. :) Ric -- ================================================ My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say: "There are two Great Sins in the world... ..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity. Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad. Linux user# 44256 Sign up at: http://counter.li.org/ http://www.sourceforge.net/projects/oar http://www.wayward4now.net <---down4now too ================================================
