On Wed, 2008-01-16 at 10:52 -0600, Les Mikesell wrote: > Craig White wrote: > > ---- > > Les, you are forgetting that this is your poster boy for proving what is > > wrong with Fedora java integration. > > It's the same issue regarding cooperation with any 3rd party. It's just > been a while since I ranted about what is wrong with fedora in terms of > the other repos. There's no reason anyone should have to do any of the > things Karl has done - or that he should have to guess about how to do > it and get it wrong. ---- it's been longer since we had Michael Schwendt arguing with Dag/Axel about the same very thing and clearly nothing was resolved to the typical user's satisfaction except that the user has to become aware that he is responsible for his own box. Thus I take issue with your contention, "there is no reason anyone should have to do any of the things Karl has done" - there clearly is a reason, and it has been known for many years now. The reason is that there are repos that have packages which are incompatible with each other. Karl's issue is that he is seemingly deaf to the fact that people are giving him conflicting advice. Karl has also antagonized too many people to make his concerns meaningful to others. The list itself gives conflicting advice. That was obvious by the fact that within the space of a day, after giving evidence of cross contamination of related packages from various repos, he was instructed to: - demonstrate which packages would be affected by attempting a yum remove (which he failed to do) - suggested to use apt instead of yum - suggested to compile from source - self-suggested an install via rpm --force In the end, he could have cleared his problems with yum but his deafness and his antagonism towards others made that impossible...but hey, he's your poster boy for java issues, not mine. Craig
