On Sun, 13 Jan 2008, Mike Chambers wrote: > On Sun, 2008-01-13 at 09:57 -0500, Robert P. J. Day wrote: > > > i just want to know why i can't put back, the way it was before, the > > interface information i deleted, or if that's even possible. i > > realize that deleting your network interfaces is not something you > > would normally do, but if it happens, shouldn't it still be fixable? > > Why not just deleting those devices like you did, make sure services > such as haldaemon, kudzu, consolekit, and the such are on, and > reboot? Kudzu (and whatever else is combined with that now to find > new devices) should find the devices, install them and maybe even > tell you that they need configured? > > I don't know if that works but I don't see why not. Just a shot I > guess. as a simpler experiment, after the re-install, i left out wireless configuration entirely and just verified that the wired eth0 came up properly, which it did. i then used s-c-n to remove both the device and hardware corresponding to that, and it went away. made sure all of the above was running, rebooted, and wasn't told anything about an unconfigured ethernet controller. and here's where it gets amusing. if i run s-c-n, there are no configured devices, but the Hardware tab shows the Broadcom BCM4318 at (you guessed it) eth0. and i see no way to re-add that Marvell network controller, at least through s-c-n. and if i check /etc/sysconfig/hwconf, there is an entry for the Marvell controller, but it's now at eth1, whereas it used to be at eth0. so i'm just going to assume that, when i deleted the onboard controller, that released the eth0 interface and the broadcom suddenly snapped it up, at which point the onboard is now sitting at eth1. i'm not going to pretend i understand what just happened here. i'll look at it some more. rday -- ======================================================================== Robert P. J. Day Linux Consulting, Training and Annoying Kernel Pedantry Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA Home page: http://crashcourse.ca Fedora Cookbook: http://crashcourse.ca/wiki/index.php/Fedora_Cookbook ========================================================================