On Fri, 2008-01-04 at 01:01 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > Craig White wrote: > > On Thu, 2008-01-03 at 10:42 -0600, Les Mikesell wrote: > > > >> Craig White wrote: > >> > >> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> You guys are both wrong. Fedora does ship F7 and F8 with a small > >>>>>> java version 1.5 which is too old for newer java programs, and that > >>>>>> broken icedtea that does nothing good. But light at the end of the > >>>>>> tunnel. Fedora can make the necessary changes to their design to allow > >>>>>> the method given on the Sun Site to work. I have been doing the work. > >>>>>> Look at my new messages on java. > >>>>>> > >>>>> ---- > >>>>> nice of you to weigh in on something you know absolutely nothing about. > >>>>> > >>>> On the contrary - he has given the definitive 'user experience' of java > >>>> on fedora. He knows exactly what that experience is. You may be right > >>>> that it shouldn't be that way... > >>>> > >>> ---- > >>> ROFLMAO!!! > >>> > >>> Seriously though, you can't hide behind Karl to make the point that > >>> people are confused because if that were true, we'd all be using > >>> Windows. > >>> > >> Errr... What universe are you in? That's the problem I'd really like to > >> see solved - and the reason I keep harping about usability (and GPL) > >> problems. > >> > > ---- > > I'm not having any problems. Are you having problems? All I see is you > > trying to score some ethereal point. > > > I thought ethereal was now called wireshark. ---- http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/ethereal Craig