Craig White wrote: > On Thu, 2008-01-03 at 10:42 -0600, Les Mikesell wrote: > >> Craig White wrote: >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> You guys are both wrong. Fedora does ship F7 and F8 with a small >>>>>> java version 1.5 which is too old for newer java programs, and that >>>>>> broken icedtea that does nothing good. But light at the end of the >>>>>> tunnel. Fedora can make the necessary changes to their design to allow >>>>>> the method given on the Sun Site to work. I have been doing the work. >>>>>> Look at my new messages on java. >>>>>> >>>>> ---- >>>>> nice of you to weigh in on something you know absolutely nothing about. >>>>> >>>> On the contrary - he has given the definitive 'user experience' of java >>>> on fedora. He knows exactly what that experience is. You may be right >>>> that it shouldn't be that way... >>>> >>> ---- >>> ROFLMAO!!! >>> >>> Seriously though, you can't hide behind Karl to make the point that >>> people are confused because if that were true, we'd all be using >>> Windows. >>> >> Errr... What universe are you in? That's the problem I'd really like to >> see solved - and the reason I keep harping about usability (and GPL) >> problems. >> > ---- > I'm not having any problems. Are you having problems? All I see is you > trying to score some ethereal point. > I thought ethereal was now called wireshark. -- My pants just went to high school in the Carlsbad Caverns!!!