On Mon, 2007-12-10 at 18:28 -0700, Mike wrote: > While we're voting (ok I just decided we were voting :), I'd like to > vote against [Fedora-list] or anything for that matter added to thte > subject. Supported! Adding [crap] to subjects just lengthens things, so there's less space to read the subject line on many mailers. It gets worse when you end up with message subject lines like: [crap] re: [crap] re: [crap] re: list subject Thanks to idiots configuring it to be added before the "re" instead of after it, and idiot list mail software not checking for its presence before adding it. 'tis also against the RFCs to mess with the subject line (beyond adding re or fwd prefixes). Threading is not done by subject lines, but adding [crap] to the does mess things up for those lumbered with doing threading the wrong way. Changing a subject line also indicates new breakaways to a thread, someone adding [crap] introduces such breaks. I mention that for two reasons. The recursive crap I've already mentioned, and some people who seem to be adding [fedora] to the subject lines in their replies to this list which doesn't have [fedora] crap in it to begin with. I haven't looked into whether that's users doing it, or they're replying through a stupid gateway. Filtering should not be done by subject lines. That leads to private messages getting filtered into list folders by clueless users, simply because the keyword matched the filter. Who then get umpty about their private messages being made public, when they're not, they just *think* that they are. Or they reply to a private message, publicly, because they're unaware of it and their mailer auto-messes-with message addressing based on the folder they replied to. Filtering/sorting should be done on other message headers. There's plenty of options with this list to pick one that unabiguously determines a message belongs with this list. In short, it's a bad, stupid, and completely unnecessary thing to do. -- [tim@bigblack ~]$ uname -ipr 2.6.23.1-10.fc7 i686 i386 Using FC 4, 5, 6 & 7, plus CentOS 5. Today, it's FC7. Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists.