On Mon, 2007-12-10 at 10:03 -0600, Les Mikesell wrote: > dd yourself to the group that has access and forget all the black > magic stuff. Just out of curiousity, I did a "ll /dev/tty*" and saw a strange mixture of ownership: crw-rw-rw- 1 root tty 5, 0 2007-12-11 12:52 /dev/tty crw--w---- 1 root root 4, 0 2007-12-11 12:51 /dev/tty0 crw------- 1 root root 4, 1 2007-12-11 12:53 /dev/tty1 crw--w---- 1 root tty 4, 10 2007-12-11 12:51 /dev/tty10 crw--w---- 1 root tty 4, 11 2007-12-11 12:51 /dev/tty11 crw--w---- 1 root tty 4, 12 2007-12-11 12:51 /dev/tty12 crw--w---- 1 root tty 4, 13 2007-12-11 12:52 /dev/tty13 crw--w---- 1 root tty 4, 14 2007-12-11 12:52 /dev/tty14 crw--w---- 1 root tty 4, 15 2007-12-11 12:52 /dev/tty15 crw--w---- 1 root tty 4, 16 2007-12-11 12:52 /dev/tty16 crw--w---- 1 root tty 4, 17 2007-12-11 12:52 /dev/tty17 crw--w---- 1 root tty 4, 18 2007-12-11 12:52 /dev/tty18 crw--w---- 1 root tty 4, 19 2007-12-11 12:52 /dev/tty19 crw------- 1 root root 4, 2 2007-12-11 12:53 /dev/tty2 crw--w---- 1 root tty 4, 20 2007-12-11 12:52 /dev/tty20 crw--w---- 1 root tty 4, 21 2007-12-11 12:52 /dev/tty21 crw--w---- 1 root tty 4, 22 2007-12-11 12:52 /dev/tty22 crw--w---- 1 root tty 4, 23 2007-12-11 12:52 /dev/tty23 crw--w---- 1 root tty 4, 24 2007-12-11 12:52 /dev/tty24 crw--w---- 1 root tty 4, 25 2007-12-11 12:52 /dev/tty25 crw--w---- 1 root tty 4, 26 2007-12-11 12:52 /dev/tty26 crw--w---- 1 root tty 4, 27 2007-12-11 12:52 /dev/tty27 crw--w---- 1 root tty 4, 28 2007-12-11 12:52 /dev/tty28 crw--w---- 1 root tty 4, 29 2007-12-11 12:52 /dev/tty29 crw------- 1 root root 4, 3 2007-12-11 12:53 /dev/tty3 crw--w---- 1 root tty 4, 30 2007-12-11 12:52 /dev/tty30 crw--w---- 1 root tty 4, 31 2007-12-11 12:52 /dev/tty31 crw--w---- 1 root tty 4, 32 2007-12-11 12:52 /dev/tty32 crw--w---- 1 root tty 4, 33 2007-12-11 12:52 /dev/tty33 crw--w---- 1 root tty 4, 34 2007-12-11 12:52 /dev/tty34 crw--w---- 1 root tty 4, 35 2007-12-11 12:52 /dev/tty35 crw--w---- 1 root tty 4, 36 2007-12-11 12:52 /dev/tty36 crw--w---- 1 root tty 4, 37 2007-12-11 12:52 /dev/tty37 crw--w---- 1 root tty 4, 38 2007-12-11 12:52 /dev/tty38 crw--w---- 1 root tty 4, 39 2007-12-11 12:52 /dev/tty39 crw------- 1 root root 4, 4 2007-12-11 12:53 /dev/tty4 crw--w---- 1 root tty 4, 40 2007-12-11 12:52 /dev/tty40 crw--w---- 1 root tty 4, 41 2007-12-11 12:52 /dev/tty41 crw--w---- 1 root tty 4, 42 2007-12-11 12:52 /dev/tty42 crw--w---- 1 root tty 4, 43 2007-12-11 12:52 /dev/tty43 crw--w---- 1 root tty 4, 44 2007-12-11 12:52 /dev/tty44 crw--w---- 1 root tty 4, 45 2007-12-11 12:52 /dev/tty45 crw--w---- 1 root tty 4, 46 2007-12-11 12:52 /dev/tty46 crw--w---- 1 root tty 4, 47 2007-12-11 12:52 /dev/tty47 crw--w---- 1 root tty 4, 48 2007-12-11 12:52 /dev/tty48 crw--w---- 1 root tty 4, 49 2007-12-11 12:52 /dev/tty49 crw------- 1 root root 4, 5 2007-12-11 12:53 /dev/tty5 crw--w---- 1 root tty 4, 50 2007-12-11 12:52 /dev/tty50 crw--w---- 1 root tty 4, 51 2007-12-11 12:52 /dev/tty51 crw--w---- 1 root tty 4, 52 2007-12-11 12:52 /dev/tty52 crw--w---- 1 root tty 4, 53 2007-12-11 12:52 /dev/tty53 crw--w---- 1 root tty 4, 54 2007-12-11 12:52 /dev/tty54 crw--w---- 1 root tty 4, 55 2007-12-11 12:52 /dev/tty55 crw--w---- 1 root tty 4, 56 2007-12-11 12:52 /dev/tty56 crw--w---- 1 root tty 4, 57 2007-12-11 12:52 /dev/tty57 crw--w---- 1 root tty 4, 58 2007-12-11 12:52 /dev/tty58 crw--w---- 1 root tty 4, 59 2007-12-11 12:52 /dev/tty59 crw------- 1 root root 4, 6 2007-12-11 12:53 /dev/tty6 crw--w---- 1 root tty 4, 60 2007-12-11 12:52 /dev/tty60 crw--w---- 1 root tty 4, 61 2007-12-11 12:52 /dev/tty61 crw--w---- 1 root tty 4, 62 2007-12-11 12:52 /dev/tty62 crw--w---- 1 root tty 4, 63 2007-12-11 12:52 /dev/tty63 crw--w---- 1 root root 4, 7 2007-12-11 12:51 /dev/tty7 crw--w---- 1 root tty 4, 8 2007-12-11 12:52 /dev/tty8 crw--w---- 1 root tty 4, 9 2007-12-11 12:51 /dev/tty9 crw-rw---- 1 root uucp 4, 64 2007-12-11 12:51 /dev/ttyS0 crw-rw---- 1 root uucp 4, 65 2007-12-11 12:51 /dev/ttyS1 crw-rw---- 1 root uucp 4, 66 2007-12-11 12:51 /dev/ttyS2 crw-rw---- 1 root uucp 4, 67 2007-12-11 12:51 /dev/ttyS3 Various "tty"s were owned by root:tty if they had a double-digit number, or root:root if otherwise. The "ttyS"s were owned by root:uucp (this box only has one or two serial ports - one's external, and I can't remember if there is an internal one). I know tty and ttyS aren't the same thing, but it seems an odd mixture. -- [tim@bigblack ~]$ uname -ipr 2.6.23.1-10.fc7 i686 i386 Using FC 4, 5, 6 & 7, plus CentOS 5. Today, it's FC7. Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists.