i recall that at least one other person was getting a yum update error, explaining that rsyslog conflicts with syslog-ng. i haven't noticed a posted solution, but i may have just missed it. it seems that those two packages are equally selectable in terms of an improvement to stock syslog. is the correct solution to just flip a coin and remove one of them? thanks. rday ======================================================================== Robert P. J. Day Linux Consulting, Training and Annoying Kernel Pedantry Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA http://crashcourse.ca ========================================================================