On Fri, 2007-12-07 at 15:21 -0500, Robert P. J. Day wrote: > but there's a *reason* it's done this way, karl. typically, when you > start adding new users, you're not going to add them to the system > groups. what you'd normally do is first create some new groups like, > say, "sales", "marketing", "helpdesk" and so on. try it -- create a > new group called "sales". you'll notice that it shows up in the list > when you ask to see the list of current groups. > > now when you create new users, you can choose to add them to your new > (non-system) groups. that's the way it's *supposed* to work. you're > not supposed to commonly add users to the *system* groups -- that's > why those groups are, by default, not displayed. if, by chance, you > really *need* to do that, it's still available. but that's not > displayed by default because it's not encouraged behaviour, that's > all. you generally need a really good reason to add a user to a > system group. Much better, makes sense, I didn't know that. I tried the add user/group app and it only showed me my login. So, I poked around, found preferences and unchecked groups and voila! Then everything was displayed. Nifty. Then I wondered why it wasn't untagged by default, but your post is concise and answers that question. I didn't know the reasoning behind not displaying the full user/group by default and I've been at this since my 486 with 16 megs of memory with slackware loaded from floppies. But what you just replied with makes plenty of sense, especially since we're not coding html with pico anymore. Newbies really need it all off by default. Thanks, Ric -- ================================================ My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say: "There are two Great Sins in the world... ..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity. Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad. Linux user# 44256 Sign up at: http://counter.li.org/ http://www.sourceforge.net/projects/oar http://www.wayward4now.net <---down4now too ================================================
