On Saturday 01 December 2007, Aaron Konstam wrote: > It gets sort of tiring to make unfaltering (to Fedora) comparisons to > Ubuntu get rather tiring. There are advantages and disadvantages to > both systems. The fact that apt and synaptic are available in Fedora > makes the pup vs update manager debate sort of silly. Please read http://www.linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2007-11-30-020-26-OP-CY-SW There are some things Fedora can learn from Ubuntu. And likewise Ubuntu can learn (and is learning) from Fedora. As two minor nits, the Ubuntu update manager is not synaptic, and is not available for RPM systems; and apt4dpkg is a different beast in some respects from apt4rpm. It would be nice if the Ubuntu updater were available to run on apt4rpm, as it's the best GUI updater I've seen. Now, pup _is_ getting better; I look forward to being able to click on a 'upgrade your system to F9' (or whatever version) button that works as well as what Ubuntu provides. The tech exists in Fedora to do this; like I said, read the editorial at LinuxToday. It is a good read. -- Lamar Owen Chief Information Officer Pisgah Astronomical Research Institute 1 PARI Drive Rosman, NC 28772 (828)862-5554 www.pari.edu