On Thursday 29 November 2007, Karl Larsen wrote: > At this time I can say the Ubuntu update system is very superior to > Pup and yum used on Fedora. I suggest Fedora look close at Ubuntu and > see how to get it working here. Having worked with Ubuntu, and done a few 7.04 to 7.10 upgrades through that GUI, I'll second this. After doing the initial update, a section of the updater is added, which includes a button to do a version upgrade. No reboot until the packages are downloaded and installed, then you reboot into the upgraded system. The Debian systems have for a long time had a smoother version upgrade mechanism. Now, I had issues after the reboot, but that was a different deal that was easily fixed (the video card was set up incorrectly, and X wouldn't start until reconfigured (which was a very easy task; apt's equivalents to %pre, %post, %preun, and %postun are much much more powerful than what RPM gives you)). The Ubuntu upgrader GUI is quite a bit faster than pup. And synaptic is still far and away better than pirut or any of the yum frontends. Adept-installer (under kubuntu this is the default instead of the GTK synaptic) is much more like pirut, but it is faster. -- Lamar Owen Chief Information Officer Pisgah Astronomical Research Institute 1 PARI Drive Rosman, NC 28772 (828)862-5554 www.pari.edu