>Chris G wrote: >> >> [snip me not liking Java and you saying it's the way to do something] >> >> OK, you have a case where Java is useful/necessary, that doesn't mean >> that *many* (or even most) uses of Java in web applications are good >> and necessary. >> >> >> Fundamentally I don't think we disagree! :-) > >I disagree. Usable java is the way out of monopoly control of web >browsers (and hardware as well). It's unfortunate that alternative >operating systems haven't worked to provide it. It works on Windows, Linux and Solaris and Apple (more or less) With Sun's version going open source I expect to see many more in the near future. -- Knute Johnson Molon Labe...