On Sat, 2007-11-24 at 15:39 +0000, Chris G wrote: > On Sat, Nov 24, 2007 at 09:08:59AM -0500, Lamar Owen wrote: > > On Wednesday 21 November 2007, Chris G wrote: > > > Then you should complain to the people who wrote the web page, not the > > > implementors of Java. > > > > So he's going to complain to his IT organization... this is the right way to > > get Linux in the enterprise, yes?! (no.) > > Maybe 'complain' was the wrong word, maybe 'ask for help'. :-) But > whatever it's as likely that the web page implementors are going to be > able to help as anyone else. > > > Chris, many users of Fedora are > > doing so in organizations where they have zero control of the infrastructure; > > Fedora needs to adapt to the infrastructure that is present, because the > > infrastructure that is present is not going to be changed just for little old > > Fedora's sake. If you think the infrastructure needs to be changed just to > > accommodate an unsupported OS, well, you don't know what you're talking > > about. Some IT organizations will work with you, unless you make yourself a > > pest: do that, and they may decide to intentionally make it difficult for > > you. > > > I do actually do *exactly* this. I have one of the two (there may be > three, not quite sure) Fedora Linux desktop machines at work among > probably 50 or more Windows XP machines. Our parent (US) company is > 100% MS as far as I know. I'm thus fairly well aware of some of the > issues at least. > > > [snip me not liking Java and you saying it's the way to do something] > > OK, you have a case where Java is useful/necessary, that doesn't mean > that *many* (or even most) uses of Java in web applications are good > and necessary. > > > Fundamentally I don't think we disagree! :-) > > -- > Chris Green > Do you mean Java or JavaScript? They are totally different systems. Java is the compiled language, written by Sun. JavaScript was a language developed by the Netscape folks, and modified by Microsoft, making it vulnerable to web attacks. Regards, Les H
