for the love of god, karl, could you please at least invest the effort to come up with some meaningful subject lines other than "my computer" or "getting it right" or "here's something else that will interest absolutely no one but me." do you think you can do that? rday -- ======================================================================== Robert P. J. Day Linux Consulting, Training and Annoying Kernel Pedantry Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA http://crashcourse.ca ========================================================================