John Summerfield wrote: >> Then you connect it by WiFi? > > More likely wireless in both places, different Aps and different keys. I do this, and don't have to say ifdown. However, I very rarely take my laptop from one site to another without turning it off. > Sometimes I add wire for temporaty speed. OK, you are taking what I imagine are rather rare actions. I can well believe that NM helps you (though only a tiny bit, as far as I can see). I have absolutely no objection to NM being available, in fact I am strongly in favour of that. But I don't think it should become a standard part of Fedora, for reasons that I have outlined several times - it does not work with some devices which work without NM under Fedora, and if there is a problem with WiFi you have to work out what NM is doing, as well as all the other bits of WiFi. I'm pretty sure 90% of people with laptops either use WiFi exclusively, or else have the laptop permanently plugged into ethernet (in other words, they are using the laptop as a desktop). If I'm right then 90% of the effort should go into making WiFi work as well and as simply as possible under Fedora.
