> NM essenntially does everyting described in your last paragraph. Agreed. And why personally I don't think NM should drop wired support, as has been suggested. The fact it handles all combination of wired/wireless connections in (at least as far as I am concerned, YMMV) a sane way is one of its strengths, not a weakness. That said it is also perfectly clear that NM does not work for a lot of hardware, and that does need fixing somehow... Chris