On Sun, 2007-11-11 at 13:45 -0500, Bob Goodwin wrote: > Ok, but I am not trying to look at the router output I need an address > for the Wildblue supplied receiver/modem device and I don't know hos > to address that or even find it's address. It may be a router, or it may be just a modem. That depends on the device, and the configuration (some can be configured to be a router, or just a bridge). Your email headers show a private IP address and a public one, so I'm presuming that you have a router in your network. Received: from [192.168.1.6] (70-41-148-215.cust.wildblue.net [70.41.148.215]) by mail1.wildblue.net (Postfix) Does your modem have a way of being configured, or is it just some black box with no user adjustments at all? If it has a little webserver, you can browse to it and see how its set up (router or bridge, and its IP addresses). > If I do an ifconfig it just gives me the address of the computer and a > hardware address which I assume is the ethernet NIC. But none of > this pertains to the Wildblue "modem." No gateway? Hmm, same here. I'm sure there used to be a "gateway" section in those results. Maybe I'm recalling when I used to have dial up internet, and the ifconfig results for the ppp0 interface. > I am lost ... > > IPTraf is happy with root@box10, could that be where I need to tell > mrtg to go? I just want to view all the data on eth0. You could try. I'm guessing that you do have a router, you could try looking for it at one of the common addresses for that private subnet, either 192.168.1.254 or 192.168.1.1 (x.x.x.254 being a common address for routers, and the like, x.x.x.1 being another common address for the first thing on the network). -- (This computer runs FC7, my others run FC4, FC5 & FC6, in case that's important to the thread.) Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists.