Somebody in the thread at some point said: > I would not be on this F7 if it were not for the Nvidia drivers they > make available. And you Frank hate them. Because they do not provide you > with their source code. > > Another thing you hate is Thunderbird because it does not ship with > it's source code. But if you took a pole of Fedora users today you will > find a large percentage are using T-Bird. Nonsense. You can get it from Mozilla here ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/thunderbird/releases/2.0.0.6/source/ or from Fedora itself here for example http://koji.fedoraproject.org/packages/thunderbird/2.0.0.5/2.fc7/src/thunderbird-2.0.0.5-2.fc7.src.rpm -Andy