On Mon, 29 Oct 2007, Karl Larsen wrote: > Another thing you hate is Thunderbird because it does not ship > with it's source code. gawd almighty, karl, do you do *any* research before you post such drivel? it took me a single (fedora) command to download the source rpm for thunderbird: $ yumdownloader --source thunderbird but wait ... there's more! $ rpm -qi thunderbird Name : thunderbird Relocations: (not relocatable) Version : 2.0.0.6 Vendor: Fedora Project Release : 6.fc8 Build Date: Wed 26 Sep 2007 11:59:11 AM EDT Install Date: Mon 29 Oct 2007 10:51:03 AM EDT Build Host: xenbuilder2.fedora.redhat.com Group : Applications/Internet Source RPM: thunderbird-2.0.0.6-6.fc8.src.rpm Size : 46130946 License: MPLv1.1 or GPLv2+ or LGPLv2+ Signature : DSA/SHA1, Thu 25 Oct 2007 10:04:57 AM EDT, Key ID b44269d04f2a6fd2 Packager : Fedora Project URL : http://www.mozilla.org/projects/thunderbird/ Summary : Mozilla Thunderbird mail/newsgroup client Description : Mozilla Thunderbird is a standalone mail and newsgroup client. and look! over there! "Like its sibling Firefox, the beauty of the open source Thunderbird ^^^^^^^^^^^ email client is its extensibility. Sure we love our web-based email like Gmail, but Thunderbird is the ultimate open source desktop email ^^^^^^^^^^^ app." in response to the above, i'm guessing karl will call me "stupid." rday -- ======================================================================== Robert P. J. Day Linux Consulting, Training and Annoying Kernel Pedantry Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA http://crashcourse.ca ========================================================================