on 10/28/2007 3:55 PM, Les Mikesell wrote: > David Boles wrote: >> on 10/28/2007 3:04 PM, Les Mikesell wrote: >>> Alan Cox wrote: >>>>> But note that there is nothing remotely illegal about the nvidia driver, >>>>> nor would there be any problem with the fedora project distributing it >>>>> themselves if they had any reason to care about the user experience. >>>> Actually the legal state of the Nvidia driver is a matter of debate. Even >>>> if it was legal it would not meet the Fedora policy, nor be in the >>>> interests of the project. >>> When the users' interests aren't the same as the project's interests, >>> you have to wonder why there are any users - or how long there will be any. >> >> The Linux users should get of their collective lazy a$$es and setup their >> systems to suit themselves if they want to use non FOSS packages. > > And why is that? Especially if they believe that vendors should be able > to distribute their drivers in whatever form they want? > >> Since the current subject is Nvidia, a Windows install, for example, comes >> with a 'it works' Nvidia video driver. Just like Linux does. *Not* the >> fancy one from Nvidia that does all of the fancy stuff. The 'Stupid >> Windows User' must go to the Nvidia site, find the proper driver for his >> video card and install it to get the fancy video stuff. >> >> So what you are saying or implying here? That 'Stupid Windows Users' know >> more about their systems and how to set them up than 'Brilliant Linux >> Users' do? ;-) > > My reply was in response to an 'it doesn't work' post. And with Windows > there is one packaging method and a small number of interface variations > to pick from. Linux has presented a near infinite variety with not much > indication of getting it right yet. So you would expect Nvidia to spend a ton of money for a very few users/buyers? And they, the users, can not even decide just how that they should provide the package? Rpm? Deb? Tar.gz. Zip? I have an idea for you. Cut a deal with Nvidia and you do this for them. All of this work. On your watch. And on your bank account. And then give the product away. Tell me when you startup will you?? ;-) BTW - I don't use Nvidia's drivers. But I have installed them to see just how difficult this is. It took longer to open a can of soda than the actual compile and install took. And, GEE, when I updated my kernel I had to do it all over again. Man!!! What a difficult thing to do!!! Get real here. The bottom line is that no matter what you want or say here... It ain't going to happen. -- David
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