--- Rahul Sundaram <sundaram@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > antonio montagnani wrote: > > > > > I agree with you: I am using F8T3 and I have found > that NM is not > > working properly, I mean that it doesn't fulfill > the need of an > > average user. > > Test releases are not meant for the average users > but for testers to > find bugs and report them so that the releases that > follow can fix the > issues. > > Rahul > Network manager is not working properly in Fedora Live 7.92 release (LiveCD). To get connected to the internet, where dhcp does not work, it picks up an ip, but you cannot surf or do nothing. To get connected, I had to manually assign an IP and netmask and put values into /etc/resolv.conf. But then NetworkManager kicks in and throws everything out the window and my connection is lost that I have to kill NetworkManager with a # service NetworkManager stop so that I could surf the net. Here's what happened. [root@localhost ~]# cat /etc/fedora-release Fedora release 7.92 (Rawhide) [root@localhost ~]# uname -a Linux localhost.localdomain 2.6.23-0.214.rc8.git2.fc8 #1 SMP Fri Sep 28 17:38:00 EDT 2007 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux [root@localhost ~]# [fedora@localhost ~]$ su - [root@localhost ~]# ifconfig -a eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:30:1B:3E:D4:B7 inet addr:169.254.227.112 Bcast:169.254.255.255 Mask:255.255.0.0 inet6 addr: fe80::230:1bff:fe3e:d4b7/64 Scope:Link UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:259 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:58 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:28745 (28.0 KiB) TX bytes:8091 (7.9 KiB) Interrupt:21 Base address:0x6000 lo Link encap:Local Loopback inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1 RX packets:9696 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:9696 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 RX bytes:4498960 (4.2 MiB) TX bytes:4498960 (4.2 MiB) [root@localhost ~]# dhcpcd eth0 -bash: dhcpcd: command not found [root@localhost ~]# ifconfig eth0 down [root@localhost ~]# ifconfig eth0 10.154.19.153 netmask 255.255.255.0 [root@localhost ~]# route add default gateway 10.154.19.1 [root@localhost ~]# echo "nameserver 10.154.16.130" >> /etc/resolv.conf [root@localhost ~]# echo "nameserver 10.128.0.4" >> /etc/resolv.conf [root@localhost ~]# clear [root@localhost ~]# ifconfig -a eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:30:1B:3E:D4:B7 inet addr:10.154.19.153 Bcast:10.154.19.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 inet6 addr: fe80::230:1bff:fe3e:d4b7/64 Scope:Link UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:325 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:92 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:34964 (34.1 KiB) TX bytes:13894 (13.5 KiB) Interrupt:21 Base address:0x6000 lo Link encap:Local Loopback inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1 RX packets:9824 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:9824 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 RX bytes:4510032 (4.3 MiB) TX bytes:4510032 (4.3 MiB) [root@localhost ~]# ifconfig eth0 dwon dwon: Host name lookup failure ifconfig: `--help' gives usage information. [root@localhost ~]# ifconfig eth0 downb downb: Host name lookup failure ifconfig: `--help' gives usage information. [root@localhost ~]# ifconfig eth0 down [root@localhost ~]# ifconfig eth0 10.154.19.153 netmask 255.255.255.0 [root@localhost ~]# route add default gateway 10.154.19.1 [root@localhost ~]# echo "nameserver 10.154.16.130" >> /etc/resolv.conf [root@localhost ~]# echo "nameserver 10.128.0.4" >> /etc/resolv.conf [root@localhost ~]# cat /etc/resolv.conf # generated by NetworkManager, do not edit! nameserver 10.154.16.130 nameserver 10.128.0.4 [root@localhost ~]# ifconfig -a eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:30:1B:3E:D4:B7 inet addr:169.254.227.112 Bcast:169.254.255.255 Mask:255.255.0.0 inet6 addr: fe80::230:1bff:fe3e:d4b7/64 Scope:Link UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:672 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:439 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:275733 (269.2 KiB) TX bytes:65732 (64.1 KiB) Interrupt:21 Base address:0x6000 lo Link encap:Local Loopback inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1 RX packets:9928 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:9928 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 RX bytes:4519188 (4.3 MiB) TX bytes:4519188 (4.3 MiB) [root@localhost ~]# cat /etc/resolv.conf # generated by NetworkManager, do not edit! [root@localhost ~]# rm /etc/resolv.conf rm: remove regular file `/etc/resolv.conf'? y [root@localhost ~]# ifconfig eth0 down [root@localhost ~]# ifconfig eth0 10.154.19.153 netmask 255.255.255.0 [root@localhost ~]# route add default gateway 10.154.19.1 [root@localhost ~]# echo "nameserver 10.154.16.130" >> /etc/resolv.conf [root@localhost ~]# echo "nameserver 10.128.0.4" >> /etc/resolv.conf [root@localhost ~]# cat /etc/resolv.conf # generated by NetworkManager, do not edit! [root@localhost ~]# service NetworkManager stop Stopping NetworkManager daemon: [ OK ] [root@localhost ~]# ifconfig eth0 10.154.19.153 netmask 255.255.255.0 [root@localhost ~]# route add default gateway 10.154.19.1 [root@localhost ~]# echo "nameserver 10.154.16.130" >> /etc/resolv.conf [root@localhost ~]# echo "nameserver 10.128.0.4" >> /etc/resolv.conf [root@localhost ~]# cat /etc/resolv.conf # generated by NetworkManager, do not edit! nameserver 10.154.16.130 nameserver 10.128.0.4 [root@localhost ~]# ifconfig -a eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:30:1B:3E:D4:B7 inet addr:10.154.19.153 Bcast:10.154.19.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 inet6 addr: fe80::230:1bff:fe3e:d4b7/64 Scope:Link UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:1694 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:1191 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:1168609 (1.1 MiB) TX bytes:194991 (190.4 KiB) Interrupt:21 Base address:0x6000 lo Link encap:Local Loopback inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1 RX packets:9992 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:9992 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 RX bytes:4524244 (4.3 MiB) TX bytes:4524244 (4.3 MiB) [root@localhost ~]# On a laptop in which NetworkManager was running awesomely in Fedora 7 Test Releases, NetWorkManager refuses to work so I had to turn it off so that I can connect and put updates to rawhide. I get connected with wired connection, because wireless does not work anymore, atheros card, ath5k vs ath_pci. If I leave the network on, booting does not occur because ath5k is loading and does not successfully load. Others have told me that they have to blacklist ath5k on /etc/modprobe.conf/blacklist in their computer and then manually install madwifi-0.9.2.X drivers. There are also other issues like problems saving sound settings which has not been resolved as well. Sorry to rant, but please consider keeping system-config-network and also NetworkManager, its intention is good, but it is not there yet (in terms of functionality). Hopefully it gets better so that it can shine and make Fedora better. BTW I used Chitlesh's files (kickstart) and gnerated a Fedora-Electronic-Lab live cd from Rawhide I used his detailed procedure found in a mail to Karl http://clunixchit.blogspot.com/2007/09/creating-his-fedora-electronic-lab.html NetworkManager was there, but it did not interfere as the Fedora 7.92 Live did when I put in the IP address manually. Great Job Chitlesh! Regards, Antonio ____________________________________________________________________________________ Tonight's top picks. What will you watch tonight? Preview the hottest shows on Yahoo! TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/