On Sun, 2007-09-09 at 23:05 -0400, Ric Moore wrote: > On Sat, 2007-09-08 at 12:10 -0700, Craig White wrote: > > > Obviously, Les' opinion is not a very popular one on this list but he is > > entitled to his opinion and it doesn't make him a bad guy. > > > > Some people on this list find it hard to disagree without being > > disagreeable...we should leave that type of behavior to politics where > > it belongs ;-) > > Exactly, very well put. I think the point I made that Fedora could work > more on stability, user friendliness is Les's point. Slowing the pace > down a bit would not be a bad thing, especially if the release could be > beta tested and de-bugged more fully for the sake of both camps of > users, the gear-heads and the people that would rather just use their > computers as a viable tool. I'm in the latter camp and make no apologies > for it. I've had to wrestle with xine at least 5 time in two years to > make it do what it did successfully, before some update broke it. > > After six months of fooling with Croquet, I found that installing the > nVidia driver from nVidia directly fixed it. I was physically ill, after > realizing just how much time and effort I spent trying to fix something > that anyone running a Mac or Winders had no libGL problem at all with. > Iwas pushing for Fedora to be adopted for an open-source project for > state governments, with 2.7 million potential incarcerated clients. So, > I backed up every bit of the project, cleanly installed FC7 and > re-installed the project. It's now f'ing broke. I look now like a GD > idiot, ...again. > > My intent was all along to do a little bit of moral-payback for the > benefits RH has bestowed on me. Yet, from what I'm reading it's screw me > and others for wanting FC to be just a bit "stable", meaning the > computer I had working yesterday will still be working tomorrow in like > fashion. It makes no sense whatsoever to expect less than the "right > thing", just as in the old days. Whatever happened to that? We'll settle > for broken? RH, I thought I knew ye. The list email address sez > <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> so it has you guys name on it. Matt, you > reading this?? > > So, my moral imperative, to those depending on me to deliver the goods > on time, sane and working, is to go and look for the "right thing". I am > supremely disappointed that I haven't found it here, but by Gawd I > tried. It would have been one helluva market share but right, F me. > Thanks for ridding me of the "cognitive distortion" that I could trust > this crate to reliably fly. > > <exiting stage left sobbing in search of the right distro for my needs> ---- What you are describing is RHEL - why not just use RHEL or a clone of RHEL such as CentOS? Craig