On Sat, 2007-09-08 at 16:09 -0700, Craig White wrote: > On Sat, 2007-09-08 at 17:12 -0500, Les Mikesell wrote: > > There is such a fundamental problem in general, in that the GPL > > restrictions prevent many useful combinations of things from being > > distributed even when all parties would like to give them away. However > > in this case the specific problem is the lack of a stable and specified > > interface so a device driver can independently provide services for the > > kernel without either being considered a derivative or needing to > > revised every time the kernel is rebuilt. > ---- > not really a problem for software where the source is available and much > more of a problem for software that is distributed as binary only. Oh, but it *is* a problem, even for open source. I work on a project licensed under the CPL. That's open source too, but I can't distribute prebuilt binaries of versions that link with GPL utility routines such as getline(). You might suggest that I choose a different license, but it's not up to me. The really silly thing is, even the FSF doesn't think there's a major philosophical difference. The CPL has some restrictions regarding patent licensing that the GPL doesn't. The FSF description of the incompatibility states that they don't think those restrictions are a bad idea, but the do induce incompatibility. > ---- > > > > > Obviously, Les' opinion is not a very popular one on this list but he is > > > entitled to his opinion and it doesn't make him a bad guy. > > > > GPL fanatics, like the covered code, seem to have a problem co-existing > > with anything else... > ---- > And hopefully the distinctions of 'this behavior' are significantly > improved upon by GPL v3 I haven't really investigated v3 yet. We'll have to see if the situation changes. > > As for your specific verbiage, there's a lot of ways of saying it - > including many that cast GPL in a favorable light. But - we've already > had this discussion and having it again isn't going to change either of > our opinions. > > I did want to point out that the top 2 quotations you have attributed to > me were not mine. > > Craig > > -- Matthew Saltzman Clemson University Math Sciences mjs AT clemson DOT edu http://www.math.clemson.edu/~mjs