On Sat, 2007-09-01 at 17:05 +0100, Chris Jones wrote: > For the record, I would not recommend vi/vim as the first editor to > try, if they are new to linux. Yes, it might be the only one installed > by default, but that can be fixed with a simple I wouldn't recommend it to a new user, either. But if it's the only thing already there, and you can't install something else, you'd want to know how to make use of it. I never use it beyond the basic level. I can't remember the way to cut and paste, even. I'll use the GUI version for anything other than simple typing with it. ;-) Way back when I used the Amiga I'd tried to have a go at emacs (as "memacs," on the Amiga). The hotkeys were horrendous, completely unintuitive, and the menus weren't crash hot, either. The edit/command mode switching of vi isn't particularly intuitive, but then a few other console editors, also, leave you stranded with no way to figure out how to save or exit. -- [tim@bigblack ~]$ uname -ipr 2.6.22.4-65.fc7 i686 i386 Using FC 4, 5, 6 & 7, plus CentOS 5. Today, it's FC7. Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists.