On Wed, 29 Aug 2007, Ed Greshko wrote: > Technomage-hawke wrote: > > someone PLEASE just end it for the sakes of all our sanity. > > "Someone" can't, "Everyone" needs to be onboard. But, worry not, > this thread will eventually die as others have. sadly, though, it will start up again as it always does when someone insists that it is his inalienable right to post constant off-topic drivel, or post in HTML, or top post, or what have you. but it's not even those posters that are the biggest annoyance. it's the inane do-gooders who inevitably leap to his/her defense, along the lines of, "hey, man, chill out, he's just doin' his own thing, can't we all be cool and tolerant and just get along, ya know?" it's *those* people that really gripe my wagger since they're not helping the situation, they're just making it worse. as ed writes above, "everyone" needs to be on-board to nip this sort of thing in the bud, but that small collection of misguided altruists is always enough to validate the original culprit to keep doing what he's doing. and as for the deluded posters who suggest that, if we really want to be such mailing list nazis, we should start our own list somewhere, here's a thought -- *we* were here first, and we're the ones who, over time, established some useful etiquette to keep the signal up and the noise down. if you don't like the etiquette, i suggest that it's *you* folks who should take your ball elsewhere and start your own lists, where you can ignore basic etiquette, and post in HTML or top post or ramble on about fedora or britney spears or global warming or your new computer to your heart's content and leave the rest of us to act like the adults. and, finally, at the risk of repeating myself, most of this problem would go away if red hat's mailing list administrator would just publish a short list of rules for RH-related mailing lists, along the lines of: 1) don't post in HTML 2) don't top post 3) try to stay relatively on-topic, with posts related to fedora 4) ... etc etc ... this would be useful since, if memory serves, an annoying number of people who have violated basic ML etiquette like to counter complaints with, "yeah? well, where does it *say* i shouldn't top post? huh? where does it *say* that? i don't see anywhere where it *says* that." so maybe if it actually *said* that somewhere, we'd make some progress. it's just a thought. rday p.s. karl: does it not mean *anything* to you that so many people are criticizing your posting habits? seriously, how much of a total cementhead do you have to be to not twig to the idea that, given the growing and public annoyance with your behaviour, that *you* are the problem here? -- ======================================================================== Robert P. J. Day Linux Consulting, Training and Annoying Kernel Pedantry Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA http://crashcourse.ca ========================================================================
