> running a fresh ( not updated ) install. > if this is a hardware prob, it (the x-crash) should show up. > if it doesnt, i will update, but without those > nonfree packages... > > thanks for sticking with me... > hmm a coula updates got lost... sat i updated the new install- 651 packages! (16 hours) been testing since sun- no x crashes- calling it resolved -but cause is a mystery. thanks to those who shared their time- i learned from them, and the experience. charles zeitler : Do What Thou Wilt : : Shall Be : : The Whole of The Law : --Aleister Crowley--