Somebody in the thread at some point said: >> WEP is completely unsafe though, aircrack and related tools can crack it >> with relative ease. Unless you live in the wilderness WPA is a >> necessity (and I use ssh tunnels for everything, including all web >> traffic proxied through one, inside that in addition). > > If you are worried about security then run an ipsec or similar encrypted > tunnel and don't bother with WEP or WPA or anything but the tunnel. That > way and card works and the management is much easier It's a little bit more complicated than that here -- I am not the only user of the wireless network. The rest of the family don't want the hassle of dealing with ssh-agent passphrases every boot, so the WPA over everything still gives them one layer of privacy. I also have embedded devices that can be on the WPA network but can't handle ipsec. WPA recently had another unexpected use... due to "unauthorized bittorrent usage" a certain teenage client needed to drop off the Internet for a while to ponder his misdeeds, changing the AP WPA key and updating the rest of the boxes' /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf was a neat solution that didn't have a workaround. -Andy