> > dam. that didn't help. if i can't figure out something else by friday, > > i'll do a fresh install in some spare (backup) partitions, and bring > > it up to date.... > > > > charles zeitler > > At least an install on the extra space would give you something for > comparison. If the fresh install fails also, you can assume it is > program level and not corrupted files. (wrong version, incomplete > installed rpm) > running a fresh ( not updated ) install. if this is a hardware prob, it (the x-crash) should show up. if it doesnt, i will update, but without those nonfree packages... thanks for sticking with me... charles zeitler : Do What Thou Wilt : : Shall Be : : The Whole of The Law : --Aleister Crowley--