> On limited hardware that could be reason alone to use startx from 3. Does this really make a difference ? I accept it saves one login screen, but surely once you have logged on this screen is forgotten and your preferred session (KDE,gnome or whatever) is started. Your argument that it helps on low end machines only makes sense to me if the login screen is somehow 'remembered' after log on, so still using system resources. I really doubt this is the case in which case I doubt, once you have your desktop session running it really makes a difference whether you went via the standard login window (init 5 if you like) or startx from init 3? Chris