on 05/18/2007 12:08 PM Tim wrote: > oleksandr korneta: >>>> I mount the drive, but the root appears to be the owner and I have >>>> no write access! I even made /media world-writable - no difference. > > Mine's: > ls -Zd /media/ > drwxr-xr-x root root system_u:object_r:mnt_t /media/ mine is: $ ls -Zd /media/ drwxrwxrwx root root system_u:object_r:mnt_t:s0 /media/ > And the /media parent directory permissions wouldn't affect write > permissions in sub-directories inside /media (e.g. /media/drive/file). > SELinux could be biting you. My SELinux was disabled at install and it stays that way (just checked). > Tim: >>> On FC6? I don't see that problem. I'm seeing things mounted with my >>> user ID but root as the group ID. I can still do what I want with the >>> device (mount, unmount, play with the files, etc.). > > oleksandr korneta: >> I'm really happy fro you that you don't have this problem. I did not see >> it either since fresh install of FC6, until couple weeks ago (cant tell >> exact time). > > Ok. Didn't know, until then that you're using FC6, too. I've been > keeping up-to-date with mine, I tend to run updates every other day or > so, and nothing recently has caused me problems. I hadn't noticed any > problems a little further back, but I hadn't used a flash drive during > that time. Are you up-to-date? yes. I use smart and update the system at least once a week from official repositories. >> Now _all_ my removable storage (DAPs, pen-drives, all the media cards >> through cardreader) is mounted read-only on this system. > > What file system are you using on them? FAT doesn't have separate user > permissions, so will get what the mount applies to it. Other systems do > have user ownership, and can/will use the ones on the drive's file > system. All these media have FAT16/32 filesystem. I know that FAT does not have filesystem-lever permission policies, and that is why I blame my system. >> Now, who tells me what packages have something to do with this >> situation, I will trace their update and try to roll back to previous >> version? > > You should probably look through your /var/log/yum.log (if you used yum > to update). I haven't looked into what packages, but HAL, UDEV and > gnome-mount are some of the things that could be involved. No. I use smart, but this: $ rpm -qa hal udev gnome-mount --last udev-095-17.fc6 Thu 18 Jan 2007 08:51:38 AM EST hal-0.5.8.1-6.fc6 Fri 05 Jan 2007 07:42:08 PM EST gnome-mount-0.5-2.fc6 Fri 03 Nov 2006 06:38:08 PM EST tells me that the last time any these were updated was a while ago. This problem showed up much later. >> PS: I hate the person who came up with *brilliant* idea to move all >> the removable stuff mounting configurations from fstab, everything was >> so clear and easy there... > > As far as I'm concerned, removable media ought to work all by itself, > without you having to do anything with fstab. It's the damn computer, > it should figure out what to do. Tim, one thing I know for sure that in FC4 all the configuration was managed through fstab and when I used to plug the pen drive the mount point was created in /media and correspondent string was added to fstab (thanks to whatever package was in charge of it). Thus, I was able to either mount it manually or through the file-browser. And everything was clear and transparent. And now this topic is 4 days old and no one even can tell me where is the hal policy stored, so I can identify the problem and fix it manually. > > Removable media can be a right pain with fstab, but you can still use > it. Though be prepared for headaches when it comes to things not being > connected at boot, USB drives that get plugged into different USB > sockets or connected in different orders (/dev/sda one day, /dev/sdb the > next time you plug it in after plugging in another device, first). I am familiar with this, and I know that pain, but at least whenever something was wrong I knew it is my fault and I have enough expertise to fix it. Now I know nothing. -- regards, Oleksandr Korneta /The nice thing about standards is that there are so many to choose from./
