Tim: >> Hmm, got a call from a friend he'd just got XP, come up and see it. >> He installs, hops on the internet to get updates, FOUR WHOLE SECONDS >> LATER he's infected with a virus. Tom Rivers: > I'm curious. Did he have his WinXP system connected directly to the > Internet or was it behind a router? Also, was this WinXP with Service > Pack 2 already installed or was it a previous iteration of the > product? He had a USB ADSL modem. So, your computer is (almost) directly connected. I can't really remember which version it was, now. -- (This box runs FC6, my others run FC4 & FC5, in case that's important to the thread.) Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists.