On Tuesday 27 March 2007 16:13, Timothy Murphy wrote: > Mogens Kjaer wrote: > >> I've never really understood this question asked during installation: > >> "Does your computer use UTC" (or something like that). > >> How does one determine the answer? > > > > Look at the time in the BIOS. > > I looked in the BIOS, > and there is nothing there to say if it is or is not using UTC. > > > You would use UTC=YES on a Linux-only machine, and UTC=NO > > on a dualboot (Linux/Windows) machine. > > If that is a correct answer, then this simply confirms my view > that this is a silly question to ask during installation. > > How is the user meant to determine the answer to the question? > > -- > Timothy Murphy I don't recollect the question being asked during install, but I do forget stuff. This is what my currently booted up FC2 install shows when running. [djmons@localhost djmons]$ /sbin/hwclock --show Tue 27 Mar 2007 16:31:40 CEST -0.113107 seconds [djmons@localhost djmons]$ I have 5 Linux distros that run on this machine plus Win ME. I'm using NTP on the Linux distros (FC1,2,3, and2xFC5) which are accessing 3 stratum2 time servers. Whichever distro I boot, including ME, the time is always correct. I have 2 machines on a network going through a Smoothwall firewall that connects to the Internet through a serial (dialup) modem. I usually shutdown the 2 machines at night unless I'm doing updates, so when I boot up the next day, ntpdate runs but can't update the time because there is no Internet connection, and this was my situation last Saturday. After booting the machine that used the NTP time servers, I connected to the Internet, and then ran /usr/sbin/ntpdate -u <server name>, and the time changed from CET to CEST. The other machine has no problems, as this is getting time updates from the machine that's already now connected to the Internet. There are about 14 linux distros running on this machine, plus a couple of Win XP's, and I have had a few problems getting the time to show correctly on some of them, but all in all I think (hope) that they are all correct at the moment. None of this rambling answers why you got a double summer time, but as I said before it would be better if the powers that be left the time alone. After all were not these time changes set up during WW2? btw. I have Debian running on the other machine at the moment, and have to run hwclock as root on that, but it doesn't say whether the time is CET, CEST, UTP, or whatever, as below. Last login: Tue Mar 27 13:19:40 2007 djmons@debian:~$ su Password: debian:/home/djmons# hwclock --show Tue Mar 27 17:43:07 2007 -0.235403 seconds debian:/home/djmons# If we didn't have to bother about time, we'd have so much more time to do the things we wanted to do. Nigel.
