Tim: >> That sounds awfully like you might have a defective hard drive. Bobex Scores: > yeah I think so too, maybe the problem is my Hardisk, but that step is > fine with ubuntu, so i'm using ubuntu's grub. thanks anyway It may be that the part of the disc used for Fedora's GRUB has a problem, but not where Ubuntu is located. To save yourself some future grief, I'd test your hard drive out. If the drive is going bad, things can get worse, much worse, and surprisingly quickly. Look at the manufacturer's website for something to do this properly. -- (This box runs FC6, my others run FC4 & FC5, in case that's important to the thread.) Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists.