Sam Varshavchik <mrsam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes: > Sadly, past experience taught me that NetworkManager is the Wave Of > The Future™; and all alternative ways of getting things done will, > very likely, stop working at some time in the future. Hopefully there will be some overlap between when NetworkManager works fully and the other methods stop working. ;-) I did give NetworkManager a try way back when in the fc5 days and it looked like it had promise, but it just wasn't really all there yet. Your analysis confirms my suspicion. Just for completeness, I'm not sure the current fedora ntp.conf hacks are so wonderful anyway. They eventually loose your hand-edited ntp servers and peers. Even though some attempt is made to keep the pre-edited version of those files, the logic sometimes stores the dpcp version twice, overwriting the static version. This really hurts you when switching between networks that dhcp advertise ntp servers and ones that don't (and one wants to fall back to pools or one's home server). I'm told Debian does this better and simply starts ntpd with an arg pointing to a different dhcp-only config file if dhcpclient supplied an ntp host. -wolfgang -- Wolfgang S. Rupprecht http://www.wsrcc.com/wolfgang/