On Thu, 2007-02-22 at 10:52 +1000, Res wrote: > On Thu, 22 Feb 2007, M. Fioretti wrote: > > > On Thu, Feb 22, 2007 09:59:03 AM +1000, Res (res@xxxxxxxxxx) wrote: > > > >> Maybe :), but he has a couple things I agree with, RH/Fedora is losing > >> ground on desktop share, because people want things to just work, > > > > > "things to just work" and "bleeding edge by design" just cannot mix, > > They can, there is no reason at all, lets say a media player software > wont, well unless you bastardise it like Fedora does, once you start > ommitting parts of the authors original known working code, you no longer > have a working guarantee. What has redhat bastardized? They remove patent problem code from gstreamer-plugins. That code is not even necessary if you disable the plugins at build time. > > > In this sense yes, Fedora is not, can not, and does not want to be the first > > distribution for Windows refugees. > > Correct, unlike RedHat X.XX days. This is why Fedora has lost a very > significant hold of desktop. There have always been other distros that grabbed marketshare by attracting noobs and then faded. Ubuntu isn't fading as fast as I thought it would, maybe it is here to stay, but Fedora in my experience is a lot nicer than Red Hat was - even for noobs. > > > >> Secondly, the version upgrade is messy Yes it is. I don't do it. It's messy on Windows too. After applying SP2 on my laptop, I could not boot. Had to go into rescue mode. Problem was a virus checker. Upgrading has horror story scenarios on almost every OS. This is why /home should be a separate LV by default - to allow for clean installs. Installer should look at the rpm database of the previous install, and as an option, have a clean install where the installer selects whatever packages previously were installed that are available. Thus - user preserves /home data (and /srv data if that's separate) and gets a clean install similar to their previous configuration.
