On Thursday 08 February 2007 15:15, Les Mikesell wrote: >Gene Heskett wrote: >> There are lots of us who bought what was supposed to be supported >> webcams, only to find the support was rather horribly broken and that >> we wasted $70 USD or more. > >If you want to run an OS without a stable driver interface, you can >always pay extra for a network camera like these: >http://www.axis.com/products/video/camera/ > >> I submit that their attitude vis-a-vis linux support IS sufficiently >> well known that sales of that sort of product to knowledgeable linux >> users is essentially zip. But they need to ask themselves which came >> first, their refusal to support linux, or the non-existant sales to >> the millions of linux users out there? > >Yes, if you want painless support, Linux probably wouldn't be your first >choice. Most current Macs have cameras built in and include the > software. > >> As a group, I'd like to think we are the gearheads, but then I know of >> some winderz folks who have to have the absolute latest toys too, >> so... > >I don't think you'll find a lot of new hardware where the Linux support >comes first. I might have seen one exception to that - ever - and I'm >not sure if that device is still around. > >-- > Les Mikesell > lesmikesell@xxxxxxxxx You are missing the point Les. Whyintuncket should we have to spend what, $500 to $1500 a copy for something like that just because we're running linux? Granted, it would give a many times better result than the $30 webcam clipped to the top of your lappies screen, no argument there. But if that $30 USD camera gives an acceptable picture to a winderz box, then whyintuncket can't it do the same on a linux box? The data coming up the ever present usb cable doesn't magically smear itself in mustard just because the receiver in running linux. Michael, I think does the best he can with the info he can get, but its not good enough. And no one else seems to have $0.50 to call someone who cares, so we're stuck. -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Yahoo.com and AOL/TW attorneys please note, additions to the above message by Gene Heskett are: Copyright 2007 by Maurice Eugene Heskett, all rights reserved.