Re: FC6 through the rear view mirror

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On Sun, 2007-02-04 at 18:31 -0600, Aaron Konstam wrote:
> On Sun, 2007-02-04 at 15:54 -0700, Craig White wrote:
> > ----
> > Ok - if I understand your logic correctly...You don't bother reporting
> > bugs to the bugzilla system that is designed to connect the package
> > maintainers to the bug reporters because they haven't fixed the bugs
> > that you reported (though a search for your e-mail address in bugzilla
> > turned up nada) and you think that bugs ***might*** get fixed if you
> > report them here even though few of the package maintainers monitor
> > this
> > list.
> > 
> > Extending your logic, I don't understand why the President doesn't
> > bring
> > the troops home from Iraq.
> > 
> > Aaron - the system isn't perfect but it's the best system that we have
> > and it exists to benefit all users - the important part of the
> > equation
> > is that people report bugs because that is where the process starts
> > (at
> > least hopefully). Recognize that a bug report on FC-6 at this point
> > might very well be too late to have much impact on the first release
> > of
> > FC-7
> > 
> > Craig 
> > 
> I am not going to defend my experiences with FC6. I know that other
> people had different experiences. But the next message in the thread is
> from someone who cold not get his machine to shut off.
> I will ,however,defend my honesty. I said that an unsuccessful bugzilla
> was posted for the machine shutting off problem and for yumex. I did not
> say I posted it. I did not. I have not posted bugzilla posting recently
> because I am frustrated with the process. I know it is the thing that
> should work but it doesn't for me. In the future I will try harder.
----
This isn't meant to be personal and intended to get you to defend your
experiences.

Linux is a participatory experience - and you own the software, as does
each one of us. This list provides group support but one must assume
that error reports on this list go nowhere. Bugzilla exists for the sole
purpose of error/problem reporting and once reported, the
errors/problems are assigned to the person responsible for maintaining
the package. In theory, the package maintainer should assimilate the
information provided by the reporter (or reporters), request more
information (if necessary) and then ultimately resolve the problem
either as fixing it, declaring it unfixable or to declare that it is the
expected behavior. This list has no means to deliver the reports to the
people responsible and track the progress to conclusion.

This list tends to encourage cursing the darkness and I think it's
important to remind people that bug reporting on bugzilla is about
lighting candles.

Craig


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