On Mon, 2007-01-22 at 14:45 -0800, Rick Stevens wrote: > On Mon, 2007-01-22 at 16:08 -0600, Steven P. Ulrick wrote: > > On Mon, 22 Jan 2007 07:08:21 -0800 > > David Boles <dgboles@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > >>> Incidentally, none of the above sites worked very well for me > > > >>> using Konqueror either. I have the Greasemonkey extension for > > > >>> Firefox working with Fox News now. For some reason, Konqueror > > > >>> still isn't working with Fox. > > > >> First? You kinda' highjacked his thread with you Citibank problem. > > > >> You should have started a one. Not a big deal. That happens here > > > >> often. ;-) > > > > It is hard to highjack a thread that you started. The topic as I > > > > saw it was sites that could not be reached properly with firefox. > > > > Just for accuracy. www.citicards.com is the cite that can't be > > > > accessed. > > > > > > > > > I can. Rawhide soon to be FC& and Firefox 2.0.0.1. No cpmplaint from > > > the site at all. They want you to have Flash 9 but all that does is > > > give you the ads. > > > > Hello, Everyone > > Using Firefox 2.0.0.1 on Fedora Core 6, I cannot access > > http://www.citicards.com If I have the ambition later, I will make > > some screenshots showing what "can't access" means in my case. > > > > On the same subject, here is an interesting one for all of you: > > I attempted to access http://www.citicards.com/ using konqueror from > > KDE's Branch 3.5 (compiled from source) > > > > The page that comes us is as follows: > > http://www.afolkey2.net/Projects/konq-screenshot-001.jpg > > (The above screenshot is incomplete, because it is a flash file > > offering a tour of their site....) > > > > If I set Konqueror's Browser Identification settings to not send ANY > > browser identification, I am allowed to view the actual web page: > > http://www.afolkey2.net/Projects/konq-screenshot-002.jpg > > (No invitation to tour their site...) > > > > So, it LOOKS like if Konqueror identifies itself as Konqueror, it > > cannot load this page properly. But if Konqueror does not identify > > itself at all, the page works. I will let all of you figure out what > > that may mean :) > > > > Also, if I go to http://www.citibank.com with Konqueror, the main page > > loads fine. But if I click the Login link, I get the following little > > tidbit: https://web.da-us.citibank.com/cgi-bin/citifi/portal/l/l.do > > > > BUT, if I set Konqueror to not send ANY identification, clicking on > > that same Login link takes me, wonder of wonders, to the actual login > > page: > > https://web.da-us.citibank.com/cgi-bin/citifi/portal/l/l.do > > > > So, I guess the moral of this story is that if I use Konqueror, > > Citibank thinks I'm using a supported browser as long as I don't > > identify myself as anything. But, if I "admit" that I am not using a > > supported browser, then my browser isn't good enough. > > Then you have a great reason to browbeat the webmasters of those sites > within an inch of their lives. HTTP 1.1 is HTTP 1.1 regardless of the > browser and these lunkheads should be taught that the world does NOT > revolve around that huge farking security hole known as IE. > > I've had some donnybrooks with some of my on-line account people. I've > told them that I will NEVER allow IE on any machine I have control over, > and if their webmasters can't write browser-agnostic code, then they > should be fired and replaced with coders that don't have their heads up > their respective posteriors. Gee, did I sound angry and bitter there? Sorry! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - I'm afraid my karma just ran over your dogma - ----------------------------------------------------------------------
