On Mon, 2007-01-15 at 22:58 -0600, Steven P. Ulrick wrote: > On Mon, 15 Jan 2007 22:57:37 -0500 > Lyvim Xaphir <knightmerc@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > On Tue, 2007-01-16 at 13:47 +1030, Tim wrote: > > > Ralf Corsepius: > > > >>> One thing I can tell for sure: There is still a noticeable group > > > >>> of Linux users in Europe, for whom this incident and the NSA's > > > >>> involvement into SELinux is an argument for "not choosing" > > > >>> Fedora. > > > > > > Claude Jones > > > >> I'm not surprised, and I have heard that myself - in fact, that > > > >> comes up quite frequently in other forums and lists - I just > > > >> haven't seen much discussion of it here... > > > > > > Anne Wilson: > > > > That reads as though Fedora is the only one employing SELinux. > > > > I'm sure that's not so, and I've definitely seen it proposed in > > > > magazines as the way forward that will become a de facto standard. > > > > > > Taking the opposite line of attack, it is possible to completely > > > remove it from a Linux installation, isn't it? > > > > > > > > > > Good question. I'd like to find out about that myself. > > Hello, Everyone > I don't know if this is a full answer to the above question, but I > thought that I'd try running "yum remove *selinux*" just for fun. See > the result at: http://www.afolkey2.net/Projects/selinux.txt > > For the impatient, the file referred to above says that I would need to > remove 979 RPM's: > > > Transaction Summary > > ============================================================================= > > Install 0 Package(s) > > Update 0 Package(s) > > Remove 979 Package(s) > > Here is the output of rpm -qa on my system: > http://www.afolkey2.net/Projects/rpm.txt > > It shows that 1,617 RPM's are installed on my system. So, if I would > remove all *selinux* packages, I would have 638 RPM's left. > Unfortunately, I would have no kernel: > kernel i686 2.6.18-1.2868.fc6 installed 44 M > kernel i686 2.6.18-1.2869.fc6 installed 44 M > kernel i586 2.6.18-1.2849.fc6 installed 43 M > kernel-devel i686 2.6.18-1.2868.fc6 installed 14 M > kernel-devel i586 2.6.18-1.2798.fc6 installed 14 M > kernel-devel i686 2.6.18-1.2869.fc6 installed 14 M > kernel-devel i586 2.6.18-1.2849.fc6 installed 14 M > > I am not an expert. I only submit this for the experts to interpret. > > Steven P. Ulrick > > -- > 22:58:26 up 42 days, 5:06, 0 users, load average: 0.18, 0.41, 0.44 Wow. That just pegged my absurd-o-meter. This is a little *too* difficult. Now I'm wondering about rpm --force --nodeps. Think I'll give that a try. LX >
