On Tuesday 28 November 2006 09:25, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: >On Tue, 2006-11-28 at 11:53 +0000, Timothy Murphy wrote: >> Matthew Miller wrote: >> > To be a bit blunt, it doesn't help much for people who aren't >> > involved in a project to suddenly jump in to voice complaints. >> > Generally, that's followed by a lot of talk (often flaming) and no >> > actual contributions. >> >> I don't agree with this. >> I think the Fedora developers could and should make more of an effort >> to get feedback from users. >> >> My strong impression is that the Anaconda developers, for example, >> have little or no idea what problems people have installing Fedora. >> The same problems come up - eg difficulty reading CDs - >> issue after issue. >> I think at the very least people should be asked >> at the end of the installation if they are willing to complete >> a short survey, asking what problems (if any) they encountered, >> or what suggestions they have to clarify the installation. >> >> Perhaps there could be a Fedora team concerned with user interface. > >TM, I agree with you 150%. I think first of all that disagreements are >the essence of democracy. From that perspective, there are alot of good >things that come from discussion, wether that discussion turns >"spirited" or not. There wasn't any disagreement in Germany slightly >before and during WW2, but that project wasn't very successful. > >I also agree that there is a fault with respect to a dichotomy between >users and developers. The definition of "contribution" is a whole lot >more than just what a developer wants to hear. Give that fellow a beer, he understands. -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Yahoo.com and AOL/TW attorneys please note, additions to the above message by Gene Heskett are: Copyright 2006 by Maurice Eugene Heskett, all rights reserved.