On Tue, 2006-11-28 at 11:53 +0000, Timothy Murphy wrote: > Matthew Miller wrote: > > > To be a bit blunt, it doesn't help much for people who aren't involved in > > a project to suddenly jump in to voice complaints. Generally, that's > > followed by a lot of talk (often flaming) and no actual contributions. > > I don't agree with this. > I think the Fedora developers could and should make more of an effort > to get feedback from users. > > My strong impression is that the Anaconda developers, for example, > have little or no idea what problems people have installing Fedora. > The same problems come up - eg difficulty reading CDs - > issue after issue. > I think at the very least people should be asked > at the end of the installation if they are willing to complete > a short survey, asking what problems (if any) they encountered, > or what suggestions they have to clarify the installation. > > Perhaps there could be a Fedora team concerned with user interface. > TM, I agree with you 150%. I think first of all that disagreements are the essence of democracy. From that perspective, there are alot of good things that come from discussion, wether that discussion turns "spirited" or not. There wasn't any disagreement in Germany slightly before and during WW2, but that project wasn't very successful. I also agree that there is a fault with respect to a dichotomy between users and developers. The definition of "contribution" is a whole lot more than just what a developer wants to hear. > -- > Timothy Murphy > e-mail (<80k only): tim /at/ birdsnest.maths.tcd.ie > tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366 > s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland > LX -- °°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°° When the ax entered the forest, the trees said, "The handle is one of us!" -- Turkish proverb Registered Linux User #268899 http://counter.li.org/ °°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°