On Sunday 12 November 2006 07:05, Tom Horsley wrote: And snipped my original post about 1394 stuffs in general, please don't do that as it destroys the context of the thread. >Look at the boot messages as they go past - I'm pretty sure >I remember noticing yesterday a message during boot that >hotplug failed to start on my machine. Maybe it is just >broken (this was FC6 i686 system). The only mention of hotplug is this: Nov 12 05:59:04 coyote pcscd: hotplug_libusb.c:361:HPEstablishUSBNotifications() Hotplug stopped and Nov 12 06:03:04 coyote kernel: pci_hotplug: PCI Hot Plug PCI Core version: 0.5 at the last reboot. And there doesn't seem to be a hotplug entry in /etc/init.d, so I'm a bit fruzzled. 1. hotplug wasn't something I used in FC2 so I'm not fam with its foibles. 2. /etc/hotplug only has a usb subdir in it, and is otherwise empty except for what appears to be a couple of kino related files in the usb subdir. And my camera uses firewire, not usb. 3. I was able to get all that to work early this morning by repeatedly modprobing those 3 modules until the errors went away (I expect I had them listed in the wrong order on the command line), and then used htop to send the udevd a SIGHUP. Then kino could find the camera and run it. but not before. If anyone has any suggestions please speak up.. Thanks. -- Cheers, Gene