> > I've been biting my tongue over this thread, until now. Can I just say that I don't even understand this thread? There seems to be an implication that you must use one or the other. I run programs to do specific jobs, not desktops to dazzle me with different flavor eye candy. Some of the programs I run are considered to be KDE, some are considered to be gnome, but I haven't found a useful program yet that won't work unless I have a particular desktop installed. In fact, I can't stand either KDE or gnome. I run an unadorned fvwm window manager that stays out of my face while I'm doing useful things with programs, some of which are written with the KDE Qt-based toolkit and some of which were written with gnome's Gtk2, and some of which are even in Motif or plain X11, and I can't figure why desktop wars even exist :-).