On Sun, 2006-11-05 at 16:36 +0100, Nigel Henry wrote: > On Sunday 05 November 2006 15:40, Aaron Konstam wrote: > > On Sat, 2006-11-04 at 17:33 -0600, Aaron Konstam wrote: > > > My experience with FC6 is getting worse and worse. I had the machine > > > coming up in Gnome. The system offer end me some updates some of which I > > > chose. > > > > > > Now the machine comes up In KDE. Neither the Sessions option not the > > > Deskswitcher Tool will allow me to choose GNOME as my desktop. What do > > > I do now? > > > > Now I don't want to make this too much of a mystery, What happened was > > piyut or one of the update functions removed gnome-session. But to get > > it back is a big problem. > > First, as I illustrated in a previous message "FC6 update mystery, yum > > in FC6 simply does not work. Despite I have all the reposa installed you > > is unable to do a complete update because it can't find the dependencies > > needed. How can that be since these dependencies must be in one of the > > repos. Someone explain this or admit that yum is broken! > > > > Now let us get back to bringing back GNOME. I ran switchdesk GNOME and > > it told me that GNOME was not installed and I need to run a > > GROUPINSTALL. I tried. That did not initially work because the > > intallation wanted an earlier version of beagle than the currently > > installed version. So I excluded beagle and beagle-gui and the > > installation succeed. > > > > BUT FORM MY POINT OF VIEW FC6 IS CURRENTLY UNUSABLE BECAUSE YUM IS > > CURRENTLY UNUSABLE. I will be glad to have someone give me a > > explanation for my problem. > > I can't help with the problem, but how did you do the "Groupinstall" if Yum > isn't working, or is it just the updates that Yum is not working for. I use > Apt and Synaptic as an update manager, which are in FC5's extras, and I > presume are in FC6's as well. Even if you normally use Yum it's usefull to > have an alternative if Yum should break, and Apt handles some problems with > deps differently to Yum. If Apt sees a dep problem that's causing the update > to fail it will suggest removing the offending package that's causing the > problems, and you can always try and put it back later. But at least you'll > be able to get the updates. Well the problem here eas that hte beagle roms that the GROUPINSTALL expected had already been updated to newer versions. I just had to exclude beagle from the GROUPINSTALL. > > > > > On top of that piyut is dangerous to the extent I find it unusable. > > Agreed, and perhaps the fact that it's tied in with Yum explains some of that. > Personally I don't understand what the developers were thinking, when they > removed up2date, and the old "add and remove packages" tool from FC5, knowing > that post install with pirut it would be impossible to add packages from the > cdroms without losing 3GB of harddrive space by creating a local repo for the > cdroms. Pirut is supposed to be being fixed, so that you can add packages > from the cdroms post-install, but I presume that hasn't happened yet on FC6, > which is going to be another 8 days of dialup downloading for me to get it. > > -- Well the yum problem is up in the air. I reinstalled and yum is working so far. But somehow pirut skrewed up the system so that youm was looking for fc5 rpms on the fc6 machine. Clearly that was a disaster. > -- ======================================================================= To be or not to be, that is the bottom line. ======================================================================= Aaron Konstam telephone: (210) 656-0355 e-mail: akonstam@xxxxxxxxxxxxx